Posts by rip van winkle

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Transfusing blood is eating blood?

by Marvin Shilmer in

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transfusing blood is eating blood?.

today i added a new article to my blog.

it is the first in a planned series addressing the idiocy of watchtowers teaching that transfusing blood is eating blood.

rip van winkle

Marvin- Thanks! I learned quite alot from reading your blogsite. I'm looking forward to the new series.

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KSol said: "it was only AFTER the Flood that Noah was instructed to not eat blood with the flesh, and hence applicability is for those AFTER that Divine command was made."

"Which raises an interesting point: given the modern-day JW stance on blood transfusion, if one of Noah's son had been injured in an ark-building accident and was bleeding to death, it would NOT be a sin for him to accept a blood transfusion, since God hadn't prohibited it yet (and that same logic would apply to Adam, Abel, etc)."

KSol-Is it your assumption that Noah and his family and their predecessors, prior to the Flood were carnivores? (Gen1:29) You emphasized "AFTER"..

But, it was only after the Flood that Noah and his family, then all of mankind to follow, were permitted to use animals as a food source ( Gen 9:3) And so why would a Divine command have been necessary prior to them being permitted to eat flesh in the first place. So, your point regarding Adam, Abel blood transfusion seems flawed.

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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

by Lady Lee in

thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

rip van winkle

There were two I was acquainted with from my cong. One had a history of mental illness. The other was a Bethelite who had been "let go" for lack of the proper word and sent home to "Special Pioneer" (Sorry, I cannot remember the terminolgy used. It's when the ORG started downsizing))

And also heard from a cong member that their friend committed suicide.

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Service meeting topic: Masturbation

by perfect1 in

one of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.

i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).

looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.

rip van winkle

It sounds like you're all tooting your own horn!

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Why we should not listen to some complainers here on this board?

by Iamallcool in

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http://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/listening-to-complainers-is-bad-for-your-brain.html .

rip van winkle

lamallcool- how did I miss this post? The other day I heard this info on the radio. There are constant complainers and they cause brain drain. Complaints are contagious. (This does not apply to those who have legitimate issues)

And one more thing-this complaint is absolutely valid in this context!!!!!!!!!!!

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A year has passed and guess what... I dont give a damn!

by TimothyT in

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gosh... i cannot believe i have been disfellowshipped for over a year!

its so surreal.

because of my ingrained belief that the jw organisation is the one and only true religion, i often think about everything that has happened quite often.

rip van winkle

Happy and Best 1st Anniversary as a free man!!! May you enjoy all that life offers.

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Hassan's New Book " Freedom of Mind " Chapter 1 Tidbits & Points

by flipper in

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the title of the new steve hassan book is " freedom of mind - helping loved ones leave controlling people, cults and beliefs " .

very good information even in the 1st chapter called " cult common denominators " .

just wanted to share some high points my wife and i gleaned from it !.

rip van winkle

Flipper, I find this particular point very interesting, in lieu of my recent post- Unconditional Love. Steve Hassan equated Unconditional Love as Real Love

1. Real Love is Stronger than conditional love : The fact that you are willing to help and are seeking professional advice means there is reason to hope. The member will realize that YOUR love is unconditional , while the cult's 'love ' depends on their meeting expectations and goals.

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Service meeting topic: Masturbation

by perfect1 in

one of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.

i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).

looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.

rip van winkle

NotJustYet said: I'm kinda glad this thread is starting to dwindle down and will be over soon, knock on wood.

Well, NJY- hopefully it hasn't reached a climax and will be heading for a comeback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Who Really is The Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Recovery in

let's assume, as most of you probably believe, that the anointed christians are not the fds.

if the anointed are not the fds, who are?.

rip van winkle

Data-Dog - Sparlocks new friend is Apostabuddy- sold separately!!!

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Service meeting topic: Masturbation

by perfect1 in

one of my strangest memories of going to the kh was when a young- maybe 18-20, pimply young man got up to talk about jhvhs view of masturbation during a service meeting.. of course, it was impossible to think about him not masturbating.

i was just hitting puberty and found the whole thing very uncomfortable- i think my dad was even critiquing him (what is that called when elder gives the feedback).

looking back now i can see that to publicly condemn masturbation, especially when a young man is delivering this admonition, is- well- hilarious.

rip van winkle

So, FUNNY!!!!!00DAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ABOUT TERRY

by Quentin in

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terry was admitted to the hospital yesterday.

he has a severe case of cellulites which has affected his neck glands.

his face and neck are very swollen.

rip van winkle

Hey Terry, glad you are feeling a little bit better and that the swelliing has gone down. Now, That's GOOD NEWS!!!

(Please let the nurses know about the heart flutters and shortness of breath you experienced.) BUTT, if you should feel a chill, while strolling the hospital corridors, before you notify the nurse, 1st check and see if your tail-light is exposed!!!!!!!!